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Starting topic for 2/5/24 othcg.net/Pyramids.mp4

What would happen if we held an election the way that Americans used to do it just a few years ago?
Read a transcript from Tucker Carlson.

Tucker [00:00:00] What would happen if we held an election the way that Americans used to do it just a few years ago.
We should try that sometime.
Here's how it would work.
Everyone would vote on the same day in person.
You would show up and present an ID just like you do at the airport or the liquor store.
Then you'd mark your preferences on a piece of paper.
You do it manually.
There would be no electronic voting machines.
There would be no drop boxes or absentee ballots.
The poll workers would probably be people that you recognize from your own zip code.
They'd be your neighbors.
They would not be employees of Mark Zuckerberg from California.
As for the names on the ballot, you would get to choose those yourself as citizens do in a democracy.
Judges wouldn't be allowed to tell you who you can vote for and who you can't vote for.
You'd get to decide.
And then once you voted, nobody could order a stop to the vote counting.
That would be illegal.
So you would know the results of the election in just a few hours, and you would feel pretty confident that they were pretty real.
That's how we used to do it in this country.
What would happen if we tried it again? Well, as it happens, the state of Iowa did that very thing last night.
They had their caucuses.
That's the first contest in the 2024 presidential cycle.
It all felt very retro, very non third world.
But the results were interesting.
Here they are.
Donald Trump won 51% of the vote. Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida got 21%. Nikki Haley got 19%. In other words, Donald Trump won decisively.
At this point, it's hard to see how he's not the Republican nominee because he didn't just win last night.
He triumphed overwhelmingly by a historic margin.
Trump won the Iowa caucuses by about 30 points.
That's more than double the previous record that was set in 1988 by Bob Dole.
So last night was not close. It was a shocking blowout.
Trump did to Iowa what the Vikings once did to the Irish coast.
Only smoldering huts remain.
Chris Wallace looked like he was going to be sick.
On the other channels they cast about looking for an explanation for this unexpected calamity.
Here was NBC News's quote explanation.

Joy Reid soundbite [00:02:04] This is a state that is overrepresented, overrepresented by white Christians that are going to participate in these caucuses, especially tonight.
Today, earlier today, I reached out to Robert Jones, Robby Jones, from the Public Religion Research Institute, knowing that we were going to talk about Iowa and this is a hyper evangelical white state.
I asked him, what do they get out of supporting Donald Trump because he keeps losing? He keeps delivering losses and loss and losses.
And he said the following.
They see themselves as the rightful inheritors of this country, and Trump has promised to give it back to them.
All the things that we think about, about electability, about, you know, what are people gaining out or none of that matters when you believe that God has given you this country, that it is yours, and that everyone who is not a white, conservative Christian is a fraudulent American.

Tucker [00:02:57] Oh the whites.
You can see Chris Hayes is repeating to himself, I just want to keep my job.
But they're very upset.
And at some point, it'll be interesting, after all these many years, to discover why a certain sort of person fears Donald Trump to the point of hysteria.
There's an awful lot going on there, much more than we publicly acknowledge.
But in the meantime, it is enough to know who NBC news believes is at fault for yesterday's history altering calamity.
In Iowa, it was the whites, the Christian whites.
You knew that.
And if you're being honest, you can see why NBC is so upset.
At this hour, millions of devout Christian whites are streaming illegally over our borders, toting their blond children in their prayer books.
And in the process, they're wrecking our schools and hospitals and cities and raising the cost of living and hiking the crime rate.
We're watching an invasion by the Christian whites.
It's scary.
But it's not just NBC that feels this way.
Joe Biden's entire reelection message is based on hating these dangerous Christian whites.
You heard it unmistakably in his speech last week to a black church in Charleston.
You should watch the whole thing online.
If you'd like a preview of every Democratic presidential campaign to come for the next generation.
It's the Robert Mugabe strategy.
The real problem, Joe Biden explained, is the whites.
They did it.
Never mind that white people's life expectancy is dropping faster than any other group in America, thanks in large part to suicide, and that they will soon be a minority in the country their ancestors founded.
If anything, these trends aren't accelerating fast enough, says Mugabe.
There are too many white people.
It's their fault.
So Democrats in media have been saying species of this for years, as you know.
And they say it both because apparently it works politically and because they sincerely believe it.
And there's no sign they plan to stop anytime in our lifetimes.
But for now, they have a more pressing problem on their hands.
And that's how to stop Donald Trump and his white Christian campaign.
And that's a tough one.
And it's made tougher by last night's results.
Thankfully, they have a plan.
And the plan is Nikki Haley.
Now Haley frankly underperformed last night.
They told us she was surging in Iowa.
She was not surging.
Nobody really likes her.
She came in third by a thin margin.
And that denies the media the chance to declare her the one true alternative to Donald Trump.
But don't expect him to give up on Nikki Haley.
A Nikki Haley presidency is a lot like a war with Iran.
It's a terrible idea.
No normal person wants it.
But because a small, well-funded group of extremely enthusiastic activists are determined to have it anyway, we are perpetually on the verge of getting it.
The next skirmish in this ongoing battle is going to take place a week from today in New Hampshire, and hard as it is to believe, Nikki Haley could do pretty well there.
She could even win the New Hampshire primary, potentially.
How's that possible, you ask? It was taking a lot of coordinated effort and above all, an awful lot of money.
Judging from available disclosures, Nikki Haley's team is burning through about $3 million a week in New Hampshire.
By contrast, Ron DeSantis seems to be spending zero there.
Now, much of Haley's money comes not from Republicans or conservatives, but from a committed Democratic Partizans anti civilization activist Reid Hoffman, for example, is a major Haley supporter.
Reid Hoffman is the founder of LinkedIn.
He's a friend of Jeffrey Epstein's.
He was a visitor to Pedophile Island.
In fact, he's also the guy who funded Jean Carroll's sexual assault case against Donald Trump.
Reid Hoffman is a Democratic megadonor.
In 2020, he gave $1 million to David Brock's American Bridge PAC.
That's a group designed to physically harass Republican candidates.
Hoffman's money has also helped to prop up the authoritarian governor of California, Gavin Newsom, as well as many others on approximately the same team.
So you know exactly who he is.
What's interesting is this cycle Reid Hoffman.
Is all in on Nikki Haley.
His cash is paid for one of the most shameless propaganda operations in memory.
So the very same people who told you four years ago that Joe Biden was a jovial, moderate grandfather is trying to return America to normal.
Those same people are now trying to sell Nikki Haley as a conservative woman of principle.
And one of the most enthusiastic peddlers of this absurdity is the neo liberal governor of New Hampshire, Chris Sununu.
He's been stumping for Nikki Haley in multiple states.
Now, you may not know much about Chris Sununu.
He gets relatively little attention outside of New England.
His charmless ness makes him a terrible TV guest, so they don't put him on very often.
But there's probably no Republican officeholder in the country who hates Republicans more than Chris Sununu does.
At one point a few years ago, he complained that there were just too many whites in New Hampshire.
Sununu has far more in common with Joe Biden than he does with the residents of, say, Coast County.
Listen to Chris Sununu explain how Nikki Haley is the natural leader of conservative Republicans, because she's got her bony finger directly on their pulse.

Chris Sununu soundbite [00:07:55]
When you put all that, that package together of experience, but the fact that she is the wife of a combat veteran, the fact that she's a mom, the fact that she brings some humanity to a lot of these very tough issues.
And most importantly, again, it's not a big government solution out of Washington that we're promised.
She looks at every issue through the eyes of the voters, through the electorate.

Tucker [00:08:15] She looks at the issues through the eyes, she's channeling you. Because the thing about Nikki Haley is she's just totally real.
She's America's most authentic person who somehow wound up in this phony business of politics, probably against her will.
She's doing it for your sake.
But Nikki Haley knows what Republican voters care about because she feels it deeply in her soul.
It's reflexive.
She leads from her gut.
She sees the world through your eyes.
Nikki Haley is not a bloodthirsty, power mad feminist robot who takes millions in cash payoffs from the people who make weapons of mass destruction in exchange for promoting their wars.
Oh no, not at all.
Nikki Haley is one of us.
We can trust her.
Okay, Kristen, you know, you seem like an honest guy.
We believe you.
But will voters in New Hampshire, Republican voters believe Chris Sununu?
Some of them probably will.
Haley's approval numbers among self-described conservatives remain remarkably high.
Why? Well, because she's been endlessly promoted on the news outlets they watch and read.
Thank you, Wall Street Journal.
But those outlets are not telling them the truth.
Nikki Haley is not a conservative.
That's not a slam on her.
It's just a fact.
Nikki Haley is a committed neo liberal, just like her creepy little friend Chris Sununu.
And it's measurable.
For example, how many Republican primary voters support the wave of illegal immigration that is currently destroying our country?
Not many do, but Nikki Haley does.
Illegal aliens are not criminals, she once explained to her friends at the Aspen Institute. We can't disrespect them.
How dare you disrespect them?
We should give them amnesty.
Reid Hoffman agrees with that, and that may explain why he sent her so much money.
Then there's this.
Should BLM consider that?
Did Republican primary voters support the rioting and looting and killing that enveloped this country after George Floyd died three and a half years ago?
They didn't seem to support it, but Nikki Haley did support it.
Quote it's important to understand that the death of George Floyd was personal and painful for many.
In order to heal, it needs to be personal and painful for everyone.
Nikki Haley wrote that on Twitter as the fires were burning.
Nikki Haley wanted the rest of us to suffer because some armed robber died of a drug O.D. after passing a counterfeit bill at a convenience store in Minneapolis.
And in the end we did suffer for it.
We suffered very badly.
Nothing in this country has been the same since.
But Nikki Haley has never apologized for that.
She meant what she said.
Then you've got to wonder if normal people, if Republicans, for example, still want to spend billions more to the corrupt oligarchs in Ukraine.
At one time, a lot of Republicans did want to send more money to Ukraine.
But at this point, now that we have the evidence of what the results are, they probably have some reservations about that.
By the time the Ukraine catastrophe reaches its depressing and inevitable conclusion, the United States, its taxpayers will likely be on the hook for half $1 trillion.
All in.
So it's fair to ask, what did they get in return for all that money?
Well, we got an entire generation of dead Ukrainians. We got a completely obliterated Ukraine. And above all, we got a much weaker and much poorer America. We got pointless suffering and death and destruction, and that's all we got.
But it wasn't enough death and destruction for Nikki Haley, for reasons that surely have nothing to do with her deep financial ties to the weapons industry.
Nikki Haley demands that we keep the slaughter going in Ukraine and send billions more, more than Congress has appropriated, even if we have to cut current programs to pay for it.
Nikki Haley didn't just think that her dream.
She said it out loud.
So how is that the reasonable, much less conservative position on foreign policy? It's not.
It's insane.
Nor is establishing a vaccine registry for Americans.
A conservative idea. Nikki Haley tried to do that, too, as a member of the South Carolina legislature.
And maybe most ominously, Nikki Haley buys into the anti-human, anti-science precepts behind the Green New Deal.
Haley has said repeatedly that she accepts the terms of the so-called climate debate, as devised by the forces currently trying to destroy the West.
Healy has declared climate change a national security issue.
That's a position that further politicized the U.S. military, something we very much don't need.
Haley suggested she'd be willing to accept more waves of so-called climate refugees from the world's poorest, most backward countries.
The idea there is we displaced these people from their ancestral homes in Africa, in the Middle East by our selfish use of air conditioning and Chevy tahoes.
Therefore, we have a moral obligation to import them here, along with their extended families, and immediately give them free housing and health care for generations, because it's only fair.
Nikki Haley accepts that idea as reasonable.
Needless to say, most Republican primary voters don't think that's reasonable at all.
They think it's crazy and destructive, because it is not that they'll have a chance to complain about any of this if Nikki Haley ever became president.
As she explained recently, people should not be allowed to express their opinions on the internet without first registering with the government.
That's not exactly the constitutional position on free speech.
That's the North Korean position on free speech.
But whatever Nikki Haley is arm Margaret Thatcher.
Girl power.
You wonder how many Republican voters could ever fall for something like that?
Some of them probably will.
The ones who haven't bothered to learn the details in New Hampshire, it's not going to take a lot of those.
New Hampshire has an open primary system, and that means that non Republicans get to help choose the Republican nominee.
Next week. Estimates suggest that 40%, maybe more of all primary voters in the Republican primary will not be Republicans.
So who will they be?
Or they will be liberals like this one.

Undecided voter [00:14:10] Yeah, I'm still undecided on who im voting for.
I am a Democrat, but, I think Biden is too old to be in office.
And I watch the Republican debate.
And I think, Haley, I definitely don't agree with a lot of her platform, but I think she has a lot of momentum behind her, and I think she's much more capable than both Trump and Biden.

Interviewer [00:14:30]
You mentioned that you're a Democrat, said Joe Biden is a little bit too old.
But if it came down to Nikki Haley versus Joe Biden.
Which way would you lean then?

Undecided voter [00:14:38]
I think I'm still undecided on that.
I definitely agree a lot more with Biden's platform, but I think Haley's more capable of the job.

Tucker [00:14:47] That poor girl.
She'll be embarrassed by that tape at some point.
But she went on in that video to explain that the issues that she cares most about in the world, are quote, climate and transgenderism.
So that's where she is politically.
And if Nikki Haley wins the primary next week, it will be because of people like the woman you just saw.
They are the real Nikki Haley voters.
Now, if Nikki Haley wins or even does very well in New Hampshire, it'll be a big story, of course, and we'll hear a lot about it.
But then what happens? It's a long primary process.
New Hampshire is just one small, heavily wooded state. Out of 50, will Republicans in other states back Nikki Haley too? Will she win a string of these?
Well, they're not going to vote for her voluntarily.
Haley can only become the Republican nominee if Republican primary voters have no one else to vote for.
So the plan works like this, Ron DeSantis drops out after losing a few contests in a row.
He simply runs out of money and has to head back to Florida.
That could happen.
And at that point, liberal donors swing as a block behind Nikki Haley, giving her bottomless resources.
That's already happening right now.
And then, critically, Donald Trump goes to jail.
And that could happen, too.
To be honest.
And at that point, bam, Nikki Haley wins the Republican nomination by default.
Now, it's not a foolproof plan.
A lot could go wrong, but at this point, it's the only plan.
It's all that Democrats have.
Joe Biden is gonna have a very hard time getting reelected, much less serving another term.
It's impossible to imagine that.
Yet the party cannot replace him, because that would leave Kamala Harris, who is even more unpopular than he is because Harris is a member of the new master race, she cannot be booted off a presidential ticket.
She must be shown maximum respect at all times, no matter what she says or does.
And so that means the Democratic Party is stuck with two fatally unpopular candidates.
It's their doing, of course, but it's a massive problem.
They can't get out of it.
So their only option at this point is to run a Republican who has the same views as Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, and that is exactly what they're doing right now, no matter what they tell you.
And that candidate's name is Nikki Haley.